Part 1 Tak bersih : Koreans, Filipinos, Chin Peng T Shirt?
Well not one of the paymasters behind the "Kotor" has disputed the Chin Peng T shirts that were seized in Seberang Prai Utara yesterday. Here is a picture of local Policemen holding up these seized T Shirts (It says Chin Peng and Rashid Maidin). This cannot be an UMNO conspiracy. Even the Pemuda UMNO is not this dumb. And as I said, no one has disputed the arrests and the seizures.
But 'kesatria' Chin Peng? Alamak. Tak ada akal ke?
A Filipino and a Korean have also been arrested in Johor. This smells really fishy. A Korean? Filipino? The Unspinners have some more info about the Korean and the Filipino. You can read more here.
Here is an excerpt :
"Dari maklumat yang diperolehi, lelaki Filipina itu bernama Romeo Castillo, 59 tahun dan berasal dari Manila. Dia datang sebagai tetamu PSM dan menyertai konvoi PSM sejak Jun 23hb dari Semenyih.
Sementara itu, warga Korea bersama mereka itu adalah Min Young Song, 24 tahun. Dia adalah wakil NGO Korea Selatan, Pertubuhan 18 Mei di Korea. Dia hadhir atas jemputan dan pembiayaan National Democratic Institute (NDI) dan Electoral Integrity. Dia sudah masuk sejak dari Mac 19hb dan cop semula di Tanjung Kupang pada Mei 1hb."
NDI adalah satu organisasi dari empat bawah naungan National Endowment of Democrasy yang dinaungi oleh Madeline Albright, sekutu Anwar Ibrahim ketika zaman reformasi. Untuk mengetahui mengenai NDI, baca AIDC"
I am not surprised at all that outfits like the National Endowment for Democracy are involved. You can read more about their involvement, as well as the National Democratic Institute at AIDC. You can click here.
Let me say that the boys at AIDC are quite thorough. They deal in facts. Proof : Read their Blog lah.
This is not the first time that foreign satans are getting involved in our domestic affairs. These folks are "Kotor". I have said before that they are undemocratic. They want to topple the elected Government through street demonstrations and anarchy. Their method is to use lies and manipulation to cast aspersion and doubts on each and every instrument of authority and governing in this country.
Well, we have been busy too.
source : outsyed thebox
Part 2 : Tak bersih - Lim Chee Wee
The following is a Press Release by Lim Chee Wee, President, Malaysian Bar dated 23 June 2011. My comments follow thereafter.
Press Release
Respect the right for a clean and peaceful walk
Much has been said about the proposed BERSIH 2.0 rally calling for a clean and fair electoral process. This is scheduled to take place on 9 July 2011. Other groups have also announced their own plans for a rally to take place on the same day. Police reports have been lodged against BERSIH 2.0 opposing the rally, and there have been calls to arrest the organisers of the BERSIH 2.0 march under the Internal Security Act 1960.
It should be recalled that it was the United Malays National Organisation (“UMNO”), led by Dato’ Onn Jaafar, the then-President of UMNO and the grandfather of our present Minister for Home Affairs, which led the public to the streets nationwide to protest the setting up of the Malayan Union. Subsequent UMNO leaders have also led street demonstrations, for example to call for independence, and those in support of the Palestinians.
Public rallies have therefore been very much a part and parcel of our history, whether to protest against the injustices of colonial administration, or other injustices, such as those we are currently experiencing with respect to our electoral system. Those who say that street protests are not a part of our culture are clearly ignorant of our nation’s rich history.
A public march is very different from an event held in a stadium or other fixed venue. The purpose of a public demonstration is to invite public attention to a particular cause or concern. The right to advocate one’s views and opinions in the public arena in a peaceful manner is a foundational human rights principle.
The response in the past, and the response which ought to be adopted today, is to respect the right to assemble and walk in support of a cause. This is a fundamental feature of democracy, contained in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (“UDHR”), which was passed by the General Assembly of the United Nations in 1948. Malaya in 1957, and Malaysia in 1963, embraced and accepted the UDHR when admitted to the United Nations. Our Federal Constitution enshrines the right to freedom of assembly and expression in Article 10.
The Royal Commission to Enhance the Operation and Management of the Royal Malaysia Police (headed by Tun Mohd Dzaiddin), which reported in May 2005, recommended to the Yang Di-Pertuan Agong that section 27 of the Police Act 1967 – requiring a permit for a public rally – be abolished. The Human Rights Commission of Malaysia, SUHAKAM, has made a similar recommendation to the government on several occasions.
The Malaysian Bar supports and defends this fundamental freedom, and calls upon the government to do likewise. We point to the positive and salutary examples that the Polis DiRaja Malaysia (“PDRM”) demonstrated in cooperating with the organisers of the “Walk and Rawk for Change” (held on 26 March 2011), and the two anti-Lynas rallies (on 30 March 2011 and 20 May 2011). In these three events, PDRM allowed a public rally and demonstration to take place, notwithstanding that no police permit had been applied for. The police monitored the routes and managed traffic flows in order to allow those participating in these marches to walk and express their viewpoints in safety.
PDRM has therefore shown that it is possible for peaceful public rallies to take place when organisers of such gatherings and the police cooperate with each other. This occurs regularly in more mature democracies, and it has happened in Malaysia. We should allow such practices to continue.
With proper liaising and co-operation, we feel that it IS possible for PDRM and the organisers of the BERSIH 2.0 march, and any other walks, to work together to allow for the public to exercise their fundamental rights in a clean, peaceful and responsible manner. Let us use this opportunity to promote, enhance and celebrate democracy.
Lim Chee Wee
President
Malaysian Bar
23 June 2011
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The above Press Statement by Lim Chee Wee the President of Bar Council is distorted and malicious. It gives much credence to the view that other than being bottom feeders, too many lawyers in this country speak with forked tongues.
The allegation (by anyone) that the entire electoral process in Malaysia is not clean and fair is malicious. Repeating such allegations, even for reference purposes, hints at malice.
Where is the proof that the whole electoral process in the country is not clean and fair? Being a lawyer and the president of the Bar Council, can Lim Chee Wee help the Bersih mobs bring forward any evidence that the whole electoral process in this country is not clean and fair? Pending such evidence, these allegations can be deemed lies. (Lim Chee Wee can position himself appropriately)
The accusation that the entire electoral process in Malaysia is unclean and unfair is a malicious generalisation. Lim Chee Wee should not be a party to this malice in any way. Not only are you the President of the Bar Council, I believe you are also a church going person.
But what exactly is the implied meaning of the accusation that the elections are not clean and not fair? Idle gossip may prevail even within the Bar but more substance is required to get nearer to the truth.
This type of drivel will sell among the hardcore fanatics and the converted zombies among the Pakatan mob. They need this to work themselves into a frenzy. But lets do some scrutiny shall we?
How does Lim explain the fact that Bersih, which the Bar Council is clearly in support of, have NOT refuted the results of the most recent general elections in Penang, Kelantan, Selangor, Perak and Kedah? The Opposition won these States. Can Lim Chee Wee help Bersih explain this anomaly? How can the Opposition win five States if the elections are unfair and unclean?
Does Lim Chee Wee know of any cases of ‘unclean and unfair’ election in any of those five States won by the Opposition on March 8th 2008? (I ask this because you say you support Bersih. It is important that you know what you are supporting, including questions they cannot answer or for which they have no answer).
Similarly in the recent Sarawak State elections, the Opposition DAP doubled its seats from six to 12. Can Lim Chee Wee help Bersih explain any ‘uncleanness and unfairness’ in any of the 12 seats won by the DAP in Sarawak? Or does the ‘unclean and unfair’ label only apply to seats where the Opposition lost? Lim Chee Wee, can you help Bersih show us just one example? (You say you support Bersih. Surely you must know the entirety of what you are supporting).
No bullshitting, no guesswork, no lies ok.
(This applies to the Pakatan supporters who will be sending comments in here too. Please provide facts. What your friend heard from his friend who heard it from his friend is not applicable. I will delete your comment)
As you know the allegation (through a Statutory Declaration) that Rosmah shot and killed Altantuya has now been denied by the person who made that Statutory Declaration. At that time, I personally asked him where he got the information that Rosmah shot and killed Altantuya? His reply to me was that the wife of a Malay Ruler (no need for names here) told it to someone who told it to someone else and on and on and it finally reached him.
Bear in mind that 'declarations' like these have incited the angry to become even more angry. Others who are more mischievous have manipulated 'declarations' like these to incite anger against a system they hate. You will know where to place yourself accordingly.
(So if any of you commenters make these types of unsubtantiated comments I will delete it. Give proper facts. Be honest guys. It does not mean that just because you support the sodomist and philanderer, that you must always tell lies)
It is a fact that Dato Mustapa Mohamed (UMNO - BN) lost the Manik Urai State seat in Kelantan by a razor thin margin of over 60 votes. TokPa complained and asked for a recount. The recount was denied because his polling agents and helpers made a mistake. Here is the story.
Before 2003 there was NO counting of votes at the Polling Station. Instead in every constituency, all the Ballot Boxes were transported from the various Polling Stations to one centralized Counting Centre. In Lembah Pantai, Kuala Lumpur the Bangsar Sports Complex was used as the Counting Centre. That is why in those days, the election results came in very late at night. All the ballots had to be transported to the Counting Centre, emptied out and counted.
Since 2003 the election rules have been changed. Now the ballots are counted at the Polling Station itself. No need to transport the Ballot Boxes to the Counting Centre anymore. Just like before representatives and agents of the candidates and many other representatives are present and watch with eagle eyes to make sure the Ballot Boxes are properly opened and that all the votes are properly counted.
The total number of votes counted at each Polling Station must also tally exactly with the number ofvoters who turned up to vote at that station. (Once you vote, your name is “crossed out” with that long ruler, the computer is also updated with your name and IC Number.) So the number of votes found inside the ballot box, the names and IC Numbers updated in the computer plus the number of names that have been “crossed out” on the election roll must match exactly).
So Lim Chee Wee, in the recent Sarawak Elections, please ask Bersih to show us at least one case where the number of voters whose names were crossed out DID NOT tally with the total number of votes found inside the Ballot Boxes? Give us just one example. You can especially refer the Senadin State seat where the Pakatan lost by 58 votes and kicked up a big fuss over the loss. (Blackout, floods, tempest etc).
Remember Lim Chee Wee, it is not a sin to tell the truth. You are the President of the Bar Council too.
Anyway after the votes are counted at the Polling Stations, the ballot slips are put back into the Ballot Boxes and sealed. The ballots have now become quite useless. A a form is filled up by the Polling Officer. It is called the Borang 14. Here is a copy of the Borang 14. This is an empty sample. Its no big deal - just a simple piece of stationery. You can click on the picture and then zoom in.
The Borang 14 lists down the total number of votes cast, which party won how many votes, etc. While the Polling Officer holds on to the original Borang 14, copies are immediately given to the representatives of each of the candidates contesting that seat - who are present at each individual Polling Station.
(How do I know all this? The Bloggers met with the SPR folks recently. We asked them a thousand questions. Even Ambiga would have been surprised at our questions. More to come.).
Now read this part very very carefully : This is why nowadays, after every By Election or General Election, very detailed “unofficial results” starts leaking out as early as 5.00 pm about which party has won exactly how many votes in exactly which polling station. You can figure out why. Because once the vote counting is over, every representative of each candidate at every Polling Station already has a copy of the Borang 14 in his possession. So they start smsing the results from individual Polling Station to their friends. That’s how we know the "unofficial" results so quickly.
So to the dungus who tell lies that the Ballot Boxes are stuffed with votes AFTER polling is over, they are lying. This is NOT possible. This was the accusation at Senadin in Sarawak. They say there was a "blackout" and the ballots were stuffed. (I will also be talking about Postal Votes later). Once the Borang 14 is issued, the ballot papers and the Ballot Boxes become useless. You can stuff as many votes as you want - the all important Borang 14 has already been issued.
And the Borang 14 does not become valid unless it is signed by the all the candidates or their representatives or agents at the Polling Station. So Lim Chee Wee, please tell Bersih to go and check in Senadin, Sarawak if all the Borang 14 were signed by the Pakatan candidate or not? He or his agents must have signed the Borang 14, otherwise they cannot announce the results for Senadin. Then please ask the candidate why did he or his agents sign the Borang 14 ??? Bodoh ke? If they say the ballot boxes were stuffed, conspiratorial blackout etc, why did they sign the Borang 14 ??
Remember it is not a sin to speak the truth.
The rules also say that once the election results are gazetted (within 21 days) then all the ballots must be destroyed. This is also why, after the elections are over, if for whatever reason anyone "reopens" the Ballot Boxes, they will find chewing gum wrappers etc inside these used Ballot Boxes. Election workers and staff (who are still trash throwing Malaysians) use these 'used Ballot Boxes' as trashbins. Why? Because once the Borang 14 has been issued, the ballot papers become quite useless.
So Lim Chee Wee, the president of the Bar Council, can you please assist Bersih to provide us evidence of just one case where ballots boxes were stuffed with votes?
How about the 16 By Elections that we have had since January 2009? Can you assist Bersih to show us just one case where ballot boxes were stuffed AFTER polling had closed? None? Not even one? But this is what Bersih is alleging also isn’t it? When you choose to throw your support behind Bersih, you must know all that they stand for - including their lies and b.s.
Let me make it even more easier for you. How about from the March 8, 2008 General Elections? Do they have even one complaint filed by anyone that Ballot Boxes were stuffed with votes? Ada ke tak ada? Just one ok. Remember Lim Chee Wee, it is not a sin to tell the truth.
Here is another one : do they have even one case where one person voted more than once? This has been the talk of the coffee shops for a long time also. Phantom voters, five Chinese voters registered in Mohd Azmij Ali's mothers house address. (Stay tuned folks I have the names of the five Chinamen who are registered as voters using Azmin's mother's house address). But can anyone bring forth just one case? Just one case where someone voted twice? Ada ke tak ada? Helloooo Lim Chee Wee?
But I want to go back to Dato Mustapa Mohamed (UMNO - BN) in Manik Urai, Kelantan. He complained that since he lost to PAS by a razor thin margin (within 4% of votes cast) he deserved a recount. But the election rules since 2003 say that the request for the recount must be made at the Polling Stations. This was not done by TokPa’s boys. They raised the protest after all the Borang 14s from the many Polling Stations were being compiled at the Vote Tallying Centre for the final announcement by the Returning Officer. It was too late. These are the rules folks. You can object but it must be done at the Polling Station. NOT AT THE VOTE TALLYING CENTRE. And once Tokpa and his agents had signed off on the Borang 14, you cannot object anymore. These are the rules.
In the recent Sarawak Elections that Pakatan candidate lost by just 58 votes in Senadin. Again he raised the objection too late, after they themselves had signed off on the Borang 14. This was the same issue raised by Dato Mustapa Mohamad (UMNO-BN) at Manik Urai. They apply equally to Tokpa (UMNO - BN) and anyone else.
Both in Manik Urai and in Senadin the candidates, their agents and reps etc WOULD NOT SIGN OFF the Borang 14 unless the number of voters whose names were manually cancelled on the electoral roll using the long ruler, the names and IC Numbers updated on the computer plus the actual number of ballots emptied from the Ballot Box all tallied. They must tally, otherwise it will become a big issue. And once the Borang 14 has been signed by all the candidates, Anwar Ibrahim can stuff as many ballot papers as he wants where the sun does not shine. It is too late. Borang 14 has been signed and issued.
Like all democratic countries with an established electoral process, Malaysia too has Courts which deal with elections petitions. Lee as a lawyer and President of the Bar should know this better. If legitimate disputes arise in any elections, then the affected parties have the right to approach the Court. This happens all the time too.
Then there are also election disputes which are settled “out of Court”. For example Lim Chee Wee must also explain the agreement that was achieved by both PAS and UMNO in Kelantan after the 2004 General Elections. There were nine Election Petitions filed by both UMNO and PAS against each other involving State seats in Kelantan. One of the State seats in dispute was Nik Aziz’s own seat.
Both sides were confident of presenting their evidence in Court. But some horse trading took place between PAS and UMNO. To avoid unnecessary risk of losing their seats in Court, Mustafa Ali of PAS met with representatives from UMNO and settled the matter out of Court. Both sides agreed to maintain the status quo. Both sides dropped their Election Petitions. This happened in 2004.
Since Mohd Sapu B.O, the main organiser behind the Bersih Rally is also the Deputy President of PAS, Lim Chee Wee must ask Mohamed Sapu B.O. why and how did the PAS come to make such an agreement with UMNO in 2004 to withdraw their Elections Petitions.?
So someone, anyone please provide evidence of “unfair” and “not clean” elections. Be specific. Coffee shop talk cannot be presented as evidence. It is also unbecoming of a lawyer and Bar Council president to be persuaded by coffee shop talk. Where is the evidence which persuaded you to support Bersih?
If Bersih wishes to dispute the electoral process minus evidence, based on mere accusations, wild allegations or based on deceit, as an excuse to demonstrate in the streets, what then is their real intention ? Do you want to be a party to this? If your answer is yes, why so? What are the demons that are propelling you in such a direction?
The announcement by Bersih that they wish to hand over a Memo to the YDP Agong on July 9th is dishonest. Till today they have not made any attempt to even communicate with the Office of the YDP Agong. Isnt this strange? You say you want to hand over a Memo to the YDP Agong. But todate you have NOT even written to the YDP Agong asking for an appointment to hand over the Memo to him. Isnt that kurang ajar? This is the King, the YDP Agong you are talking about. Not the “Friends In Conversation” with whom you have ‘teh’ tarik.
It is obvious that they are merely abusing the YDP Agong’s good name for their political agenda. The Malaysian public is not that obtuse to be not able to see through this ruse.
They have made known to the whole world that they will be marching to the gates of the Istana to hand over a Memo. But they have not had even the slightest courtesy to petition the YDP Agong to seek an audience, even at his front gate. Ambiga is manifesting a riff raffness that seems to be written on her forehead.
Bersih’s fear is that the Agong may indeed agree to receive a Bersih delegation to meet him privately to hand over their Memo.
BUT what if the YDP Agong changes the date? Say BEFORE or AFTER the 9th of July.
What if the Agong says, ‘Ok guys, since you want to give me a Memo, send three Bersih people to see me on the 7th of July.’ Their demo planned for July 9th will die a quick and natural death.
Or if the YDP Agong says “OK send three people to see me but on the 12th of July. I am busy on the 9th.” Bersih will be caught with their pants down. (L*wat may get excited though).
Or what if the YDP Agong says, “OK I will meet you on the 9th of July but come to my palace in Kuala Terengganu”. Ambiga and Mat Sapu B.O may be gasping for oxygen.
Or the YDP Agong says, ’Ok guys. Come over and give me your Memo at the riding club’.
That will be really quite disastrous for Bersih. The YDP Agong can really mess their plans to run mad in the streets. That is why they have no intention of asking the YDP Agong permission to meet him. (Anyway sources say that the YDP Agong will not even be in the country over 9th of July).
But so what? Bersih does not want to meet the YDP Agong. They don’t want to go early on the 7th either. Neither do they want to show any respect to the Agong in Kuala Terengganu. Or met him at the riding club. They just want to demonstrate in the streets. This is a mob.
Please note that almost 1400 Police Reports have been lodged against the Bersih rally by various people. Never before in the history of Malaysia have 1400 Police reports been lodged against any one single disruptive event.
Then Lim Chee Wee also exhibits stupidity when he tries to draw parrallels with Dato Onn Jaafar’s protesting against the colonialist Malayan Union threat in 1946. Malaya was not yet an independent nation at that time. There were no free elections at all. Period.
Dato Onn Jaafar the founder of UMNO, was fighting against the British colonialists for the establishment of a free and democratic country. Lim Chee Wee apa pasal lu dungu sangat? He cycled to the kampongs and spoke to the people about their freedoms. He did not run amok in the streets like Bersih.
When his ideas were rejected, Dato Onn did not demonstrate in the streets. Instead he stuck to the democratic process and formed a new multi racial political party called Party Negara. After Independence when his new party was defeated at the ballot box (Dato Onn himself won just one seat in Terengganu in 1959) Dato Onn faded away from the scene. He died in 1962. But he will be forever renowned and remembered for sticking so closely to democratic ideals. He was truly a man who was far ahead of his time.
Sorry lah but Lim Chee Wee’s attempt to sully the good name of Dato Onn Jaafar exposes a “New Village” idiot - of the same pedigree as riff raff. Dato Onn was a great man. Please do not try to equate his achievement to the mobs that you support. Or try to elevate the mobs up to the level of Dato Onn. Dia punya kasut pun lu tak boleh pegang.
Lim Chee Wee’s dungu-ness continues. He also says : “Subsequent UMNO leaders have also led street demonstrations, for example to call for independence, and those in support of the Palestinians”.
Today we are an Independent nation, with our own King, Parliament and we govern ourselves. There are no more British colonialists around. UMNO did NOT run wild in the streets in the same scale Bersih already did in Kuala Lumpur once before in 2007, and is planning to do again.
When the Colonial British gave up their plans for the Malayan Union in January 1948, the protests led by UMNO also stopped. Malaya walked peacefully towards Independence from 1948 onwards, despite the fact that there were no elections at all in colonial Malaya until seven years later in 1955. The first “General Elections” were held peacefully in Malaya in 1955. The Alliance (Barisan Nasional) won 51 out of 52 seats. There were no street demonstrations.
Lim Chee Wee should know that it was the Communists who could not accept a non Communist Malaya or a non violent political process. They chose to wage war against the Malayan people. At that time Chin Peng had no idea that his face would one day be printed on a T shirt by supporters of Bersih.
Clearly, Lim Chee Wee is conveniently ignorant of truth and quite dense when it comes to the history of the nation.
As a lawyer and President of the Bar Council, Lim Chee Wee must also advise the people that Section 27 of the Police Act 1967 – requiring a permit for a public rally – has not been abolished. It is still therefore the law of the land. And the Police have the discretion to allow or refuse permits for public gatherings.
The President of the Bar Council is stoking flames if he even suggests that the people of Malaysia NEED NOT obey Section 27 of the Police Act or any other laws of Malaysia. (That is what you are doing when you say you support the illegal Bersih Rally which has NOT been given a Police Permit).
Inciting the people to disobey the Law of the Land is an act of Sedition. Anyone can be arrested, tried and jailed for sedition if he tells people to disobey Section 27 of the Police Act or any other Law.
If a law is seen as unjust, then Lim Chee Wee as the president fo the Bar Council must know that the correct means to address the issue is through the Electoral Process and the Legislature. Since the majority vote in this democratic system finds it to their great benefit to maintain such legislation, it is therefore not the right of the minority mobs to impose their will on the majority through dubious and malicious methods outside the democratic process. It will become gangsterism. The law of the jungle.
Let us settle our differences through the Ballot Box. This country is a democracy. For 56 years UMNO and the Barisan Nasional have made sure that General Elections are held every five years like clockwork.
Even when we had a glitch in 1969, and inspite of the absolute powers granted to the National Operations Council headed by Tun Abdul Razak, the father of the present Prime Minister, our country still went to the polls like clockwork in 1974. Among the member nations of the Commonwealth, Malaysia along with very few other countries, now boasts of the longest tradition of a safe and predictable electoral process.
Being the president of the Bar Council, which often becomes unduly inebriated over issues like this, Lim Chee Wee must understand that in a democracy it is a fundamental principle that the majority brings into effect legislation through which the people then govern themselves.
The Police Act does not derive its powers from the IGP or the Minister of Home Affairs. Neither should the Police take instructions from Bersih or Lim Chee Wee.
The Police Act remains in force because we the people have given it such powers. If the Police wish to exercise their discretion according to Section 27 of the Police Act it is because we the majority of the voters have elected to grant the Police such powers. And todate the majority of voters are quite happy with what we have done.
It becomes the law of the jungle when riff raff and mobs seek to dictate to the majority that the majority should listen to the whims of the mob.
L*wat has declared in public that he can pick up the phone, call Ambiga and ask her to call off the mob. Despite Ambiga’s play acting rebuttal, it simply goes to show the gangster attitude behind his statement : ’I can ask her to call it off anytime’. Macam bapak dia punya negeri.
If the lawyers, if the President of the Bar Council itself and Opposition Members of Parliament (who are themselves lawmakers) do not want to respect the Laws of the Land, then how do you expect the ordinary people to obey the Laws of the Land?
Many years ago, the DAP sent flowers to one Prime Minister with a note reading, ‘Where democracy fails, revolution is the answer’. Let me repeat to you this most pertinent observation by the DAP. Indeed “where democracy fails, revolution is the answer“.
If the majority of the electorate in this democratic country get fed up with the incessant demand by a minority mob, that the laws of this country should be broken or bent to suit their whims and fancies, then indeed democracy has failed.
It is turning out to become the tyranny of the minority mobs against the majority. Democarcy has failed. What you are asking for then is a revolution. If that is your wish, let me assure you that the majority will not shy away from heaping such a revolution on your head.
The country is heading towards chaos because of the gangsterism and the tyranny of the minority. If you don’t stop, a time will come when this will have to stop. Please be on notice.
May I also take this Opportunity to advise the Minister of Home Affairs and the IGP to rise to the occasion. The majority of the people are behind you wholeheartedly. It rests upon your shoulders to save the nation from the mobs. Also from the sodomists, adulterers, liars and their lying wives, lying children, lying families and friends with their lies and deceptions.
I must also put the Minister of Home Afairs and the IGP on notice. The new IGP Tan Sri Ismail Omar is reputed to be a straightforward and hardworking man who lives in a regular terrace house.
Todate over 1400 Police Reports have been made against this illegal riot that is being planned by this mob. It is enough evidence that the majority of the people do not want to see the peace and harmony of the nation disrupted by these mobs. So please take decisive action. If even one single individual (it does not matter whether from bersih, kotor, anugerah tuhan, Pemuda UMNO, Perkasa or whoever) gets hurt or gets his or her head cracked - then the IGP must resign. You must take responsibility Tuan.
And if anyone gets killed on July 9th, (from any side at all) then both the IGP and the Minister of Home Affairs must resign. 1400 Police reports have already been made. That is an extremely loud and clear message to you from the people, to do your job. Do not say that you could not do anything.
Since Lim Chee Wee is said to be a church going man, here is something from the Al Kitab which you believe is Allah's Word :
Romans 1
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22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
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23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God for the likeness of an image of corruptible man, and of birds, and four-footed beasts, and creeping things.
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24 Wherefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts unto uncleanness, that their bodies should be dishonored among themselves:
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25 for that they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile passions: for their women changed the natural use into that which is against nature: (passions of dishonor)
27 and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another, men with men working unseemliness, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was due.
So Lim Chee Wee, you well know that the man is a sodomist, an adulterer, a philanderer, a liar, a cheat. A bad actor. A nothing. This little romp he is planning on the streets is to divert attention away from the demons which posses him. For he is certainly possessed.
Where do you come in? We can understand your hatred against the status quo in this land, the religious bigotry and the thousand other things that have gone not so well. Ok, you can say this is your enemy. And the enemy of your enemy is of course your friend.
But consider this though : What if it is you who are the enemy? Or the enemy is also in you. And you dont realise it. Then, should the enemy of your enemy still be your friend?
No matter how great your anger against the status quo, do not cohabit with the serpent. You will get bitten.
source : outsyed the box
Part 3 : Tak bersih - Azmin Ali’s Chinese voters.
This is getting to be more interesting. My “Part 2 - Tak bersih : Lim Chee Wee” which was posted yesterday seems to be creating waves within the Bar Council. I have read some of the comments from members of the Bar. Tak masuk akal.
One lawyer fellow said this : “I dont recall the Press Statement (by their President)focusing on whether Malaysia has free and fair elections“.
I dont recall ??? In other words, just like Johari Abdul these clowns also 'tak boleh ingat'. Suddenly they are suffering memory lapses.
Typical lawyer crap. Now they are denying that the Press Statement by their President of the Bar did not touch on “whether Malaysia has free and fair elections“. Pi dah mabuk. Lepas baling batu, dia sembunyi tangan pula.
The sin here is in your ommission. While 'Bersih' is mentioned four times, there is nary a mention of Pemuda UMNO and Perkasa. There is only a fleeting mention of 'other groups'. You have omitted mentioning Perkasa and Pemuda UMNO who have also threatened to run wild in the streets on 9th July. Your Press Statement only mentions Bersih. Why did you not mention Pemuda and Perkasa, you black hearted fiends?
When you omitted Perkasa and Pemuda UMNO but choose to highlight only Bersih’s right to run mad in the street, you are making a clear statement that you endorse Bersih’s madness only. You are taking sides. Pemuda and Perkasa’s right to run mad in the streets is not worthy of your delusions. It is bad enough that you speak with forked tongues, it becomes worse when you unashamedly boast your deceit. Tak ada malu punya orang. This is a clear cut admission of your complicity.
Today lets discuss Mohd Azmin Ali’s statement that there are five unknown Chinese voters who are registered to vote at his mother’s house. Each time anyone mentions this fellow’s name you should wash your mouth with Listerine or some other strong mouth wash. One day this fellow’s real story will become evident. It is filthy. I will avoid using his name too many times.
He also challenged the EC to reply his accusation about the five Chinese voters registered in his mother‘s house. The EC has already replied him. Did you all notice that all of a sudden he has gone quite silent about this issue? The Bar Council, please take note as well. Why has this fellow gone silent? The reason is because the EC has released a Press Statement that raises more questions about this fellow, and not the other way around.
Their implication is that the EC is in cahoots with UMNO to register ‘ghost voters’. Ok but Kampong Baru Klang Gates (where his mother lives) is a Malay area. How would registering five Chinese "ghost voters" help UMNO in a Malay constituency? Why would UMNO, which they say is Malay racist, want to put five Chinese names on the voter rolls in the first place? Wouldnt that be the job for the MCA or Gerakan? But in Kampong Baru Klang Gates ?
Shouldn’t it be the other way around? Shouldnt UMNO delete five Chinese names and replace them with five or fifty Malay names instead, and in a Chinese area ? Ini konspirasi UMNO jenis apa pula - tambahkan pengundi Cina pula? Tak masuk akal lah.
The truth is there are 11 voters registered to vote at the fellow’s mother’s house, whose address is at 1E, Kampong Klang Gate Baharu. The 11 names plus the dates they registered to vote at this address are as follows:
1. Che Tom binti Yahaya - 1 January 1972
2. That ‘wash mouth’ fellow - 2 Julai 1989
3. His wife (also wash mouth) - 2 Julai 1989
4. Mohd Azwan Ali - 2 Julai 1989
5. Ummi Hafilda Ali - 2 July 1989
Now here are the other strange names :
6. Tan Teek Fong - 31 March 1990
7. Tan Teek Hock - 31 March 1990
8. Song Poo Wan - 31 March 1990
9. Lim Hock Seng - 9 September 1994
10.Chong Chee Peng - 9 September 1994
11.Amirudin bin Harun - 19 Ogos 1993
Please note that by that time L*wat was already an UMNO Minister in the Cabinet. In fact by 1993, L*wat was already Deputy Prime Minister. And ‘wash mouth’ was his buddy and so was his other half (yukky). Here is the EC's Press Release. I dont know if you can zoom in :
So the question is who registered five Chinamen and one Malay guy as voters using the mother’s address? Since when does UMNO go around registering Chinese voters in Malay majority areas?
The fact is BEFORE 16 July, 2002 the laws were such that anyone could use any address to register as a voter. It was not necessary to register using your IC. This led to many people registering to vote using addresses which they did not live in. This was provided under the Law. Before 16 July 2002, this was allowed.
The best example is people registering to vote using their hometown addresses although they lived and worked in Kuala Lumpur.
The law was changed in July 2002 where year round voter registration was introduced. This time voters must register using their ICs and their voting address cannot be different from their IC address.
Having said that, even now you can still legally have 10, 20 or 50 voters registering to vote using the same address but all their ICs must also bear the same address. This is not a crime.
Even today in some dwellings in urban areas, there may be 500 voters registered at the same ‘address’. These are called apartments, condominiums, rumah pangsa, flats etc. Essentially if you live in an apartment, you live at the same locality as all the other apartment dwellers. Its no big deal. The important thing is that everyone votes only once. No one should vote twice..
Before 2002, political parties had long abused this loophole and registered friendly parties to vote in their constituencies. That may be the reason why so many different people were registered at one address. In Kelantan, PAS was notorious for doing this thing. (There is one more interesting constituency which I shall be talking about.) It was not an illegal thing to do. However this loophole has been closed since July 2002. Nowadays you must register to vote only at your IC address. You cannot use an address that is different from your IC..
However those people who have already been registered as voters at the same address (since before 2002) can remain where they are. This is also provided by the Law. They can of course (or rather they should) change their voter registration address to reflect their IC addresses. Or we have to wait for them to die..
There is one constituency in Malaysia which until today does have 20, 30 or 50 voters registered to vote in one kampong address. It is a rural constituency with many kampong houses. Can you guess which constituency this is? Here is a multiple choice answer (I have made it easy to answer lah)..
a. Wangsa Maju, KL
b. Lembah Pantai, KL
c. Seputeh, KL
d. Bukit Bintang, KL
e. Permatang Pauh, Pulau Pinang..
Since a. to d. do not have kampong houses, the obvious answer is e. And as you all know the MP for Permatang Pauh is none other than Mr Backdoor himself..
So maybe the Bersih fellows can make a “lawatan sambil belajar” to Permatang Pauh and check out how many kampong houses have 10, 20, 30 or 50 voters registered at those kampong addresses?.
This phenomena has also given rise to the ‘ghost voters’, especially at kampongs and small towns..
Because the Law (prior to July 16, 2002) allowed voters to register using addresses that were different from their Identity Cards people living and working in KL for years would register to vote in their hometowns. Or political parties would round up their supporters and register 30 voters in one address..
Come election day, people in small towns and kampongs would see strangers in outstation cars arriving and casting votes. Hence the ‘ghost voters’..
Prior to 2002, the Law allowed for registration without using the address on your IC. Since 2002, this Law has been changed. However existing registered voters cannot be prevented from voting. It will take years for all these ‘ghost voters’ to disappear.
source : outsyed the box
Part 4 : Tak bersih - Ambiga Drops Demands !!
I think despite all the mabuk rhetoric Ambiga is getting frightened. I hope she can come to her senses and realise that the ‘I can pick up the phone and tell her to call it off’ fellow is chilling his heels and not making his face seen at all. It is the “fetchers and getters” like Ambiga who will get arrested and maybe thrown in jail too. It is called “making use of people”. This could also be the end of her career..
Ambiga, recall Zainur Zakaria and Zulkifli Noordin (and many others Tan Tee Beng, Zahrain Hashim, Ezzam Mohd Noor) - both of them willingly went to jail for L*wat. Now they realise how wrong they were and how they have been conned by L*wat. Watch closely - the same thing is happening to Ambiga..
Yesterday Ambiga went to see the IGP to suggest an alternative route which the Bersih mob wants to take. This a sign that Ambiga is beginning to chicken out. She wanted the IGP’s endorsement. The IGP is reported to have remained silent at Ambiga’s proposal. Here is The Star :.
"Meanwhile, Bersih 2.0 chairman Datuk S. Ambiga had a 30-minute meeting with Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Ismail Omar to discuss an alternative route for the rally. Ambiga said another route was needed in order to avoid confrontation with any other group, adding that Ismail was silent on the suggestion.".
The girl is still new from the plantation and maybe short on the ‘adab‘. You know what the IGP’s silence means Ambiga - the IGP is keeping his options open - to arrest you. I think you are going to get arrested. If you are locked up, do you think that L*wat will send you thosai and muruku ? Think again. None of L*wat’s people visited the Indian Tamil Hindraf guys who were locked up in jail. The Ceylon Tamils collected the money and got a free ride to London to see the Queen. (A bit of the caste thingy there no?).
Anyway folks, I hope you have read Parts 1, 2 and 3 of this post. I have been doing some research on Bersih’s ‘EIGHT demands’. Remember folks, their complaint is against the Elections Commission. The Suruhanjaya Pilihanraya. Lets keep this in mind very carefully. Not the Jabatan Kerja Raya, the Jabatan Bomba, not the Veterinary Department or the Jabatan Kebajikan Masyarakat. It’s the Elections Commission. Why? Because they claim that the elections in this country are unfair..
Lets focus ok : Elections Commissions and ‘elections not fair’..
So how many times has Ambiga taken her complaints to the Jabatan Bomba or the Veterinary Department? None. Why? Because her complaint has been about the Elections Commission. OK so how many times has Ambiga taken her complaints to the Elections Commission? Ten times, five times, three times? Nope. The correct answer is once only - just once..
On November 27th last year when Ambiga met the Elections Commission she handed over Bersih’s list of complaints or issues. Here are scanned copies (partly) of Amibiga’s list of 17 (SEVENTEEN) complaints, including a page that shows some NGOs that have signed this list. You can click on the image, then zoom in..
Here are some of the NGOs who signed Bersih's Memorandum of 27th Nov 2010:
Tuan-tuan dan Puan-puan, please note : Bersih’s Memorandum dated 27th November 2010 had 17 items. SEVENTEEN, TUJUH BELAS, SABTA WA ‘ASHARA..
In their Memorandum of 27 November, 15 of their 17 demands are numbered whereas the top two, tagged as ‘Immediate Concerns', are not numbered . So 15 + 2 = 17 "demands" by Bersih..
Here is the point to note : most of us are aware that they have been blasting onlyEIGHT demands all over the media and cyberspace. EIGHT demands. Not 17. So how come there are only EIGHT demands left now? NINE demands have gone missing. What happened?.
Folks, in actual fact there are only FIVE demands, BUKAN LAPAN PUN. Please read on..
I am telling you that Bersih has DROPPED TWELVE (12) demands from the original SEVENTEEN (17) that were submitted in their November 27th Memorandum to the EC. (Hello can you reporters please go and ask Ambiga why they dropped 12 of their 17 demands and now only have FIVE left?) Pergi tanya lah. Jangan shy-shy nak tanya Ambiga..
They have retained only FIVE demands from that original list of 17. Why have they dropped TWELVE or 70% of their demands?.
Because the entire thing is crap. These are just red herrings. Time wasting bullshit. And even the remaining FIVE demands that are left on their list are also crap..
Maybe realizing that they have chopped off too many, they have added THREE more new DEMANDS. That is how they get the present "EIGHT demands of Bersih 2.0“..
And these THREE new demands they have added on, have nothing to do with the Elections Commission. It is better for BERSIH to put those THREE EXTRA demands to the Jabatan Bomba, Jabatan Kerja Raya or someone else. Not to the Elections Commission. Please do read on. Firstly here is the full list of Bersih's EIGHT Demands:
This whole Bersih thing is just a time wasting charade. And it is dangerous. They are playing with fire. It is just L*wat’s ploy to divert attention from his liwat problems and the China Doll sex video problem. And he is doing some racial profiling here as well : getting Ambiga to play the “fetcher and getter” role. “Ambiga, pergi sapu belakang rumah”. I am sorry but that is what is happening..
So what happened to the TWELVE other demands that have been dropped by Bersih ? First here is a list of all the 17 Demands which Ambiga put in her Memorandum - on her one and only visit - to the EC on November 27 last year..
List of 17 Items in Bersih Memo dated 27 November 2010..
1. Investigation of Election Offences
2. Obstruction to voters registration
3. Automatic Registration
4. Lowering of voting age from 21 to 18
5. Absentee voting for all.
6. Indelible Ink
7. Minimizing gerrymandering (minimizing? Not abolish completely?)
8. Minimising malapportionment of constituencies
9. Meaningful campaign period of 21 days minimum.
10. Free and fair media access (my column will appear in Harakah and Rocket?)
11. Control of party expenses
12. Public Finance of Party Expense (they want taxpayers funds for party expenses - banyak cantik)
13. Right to contest election after Resignation - ‘kataks’ to be forced to resign
14. Administrative neutrality
15. Restoration of Local Government elections
16. Full Judicial scrutiny on Election Petitions
17. Right to observe elections
A load of 17 red herrings. WE will comment on all these items. But first here are the REVISED and CHOPPED DOWN list of EIGHT demands by Bersih 2.0 which they have now..
Eight immediate demands of Bersih 2.0 (Now the whole list is called ‘immediate demands’)
1. Clean the electoral roll
2. Reform postal ballot
3. Use indelible ink
4. Minimum 21 days campaign period
5. Free and fair access to media
6. Strengthen public institutions
7. Stop corruption (hey that’s my job lah !!)
8. Stop dirty politics.
So kawan2, just a few lines above I said I will comment on each of Bersih’s 17 original demands which they submitted to the EC on November 27, 2010. Well I don’t have to comment on them anymore because Bersih has dropped them from their original list lah. Buat apa mahu susah susah?.
Now they only have EIGHT items. In fact if you combine 1. And 2. Above, there are only SEVEN items. Lagi senang nak komen..
Note that items 6 to 8 (strengthen public institutions, stop corruption, stop dirty politics) have nothing to do with the Elections Commission. It is better for Ambiga to submit the last three to the Jabatan Kerja Raya (strengthen public buildings??), the MACC (stop corruption) and Jabatan Kesihatan (dirty politics??).
You see folks, these are the red herrings. The Puteri Gunung Ledang had no intention of entertaining the Sultan’s request. So she asked for a bridge made of gold to be built from Melaka to her perch on Gunung Ledang, she asked for a bowl full of mosquitos hearts. Finally she asked for a cup of the Sultan’s son’s blood. She was making it just impossible for the Sultan to comply..
Strengthening public institutions is NOT the domain of the EC. Neither is stopping corruption or cleaning up dirty politics.
L*wat is the inventor of dirty politics in the country. He used tons of money to take down Ghafar Baba. He first created the Regu Wawasan (Mat Taib and Rahim Tambi Chik) and then took them both out. Plus he made millions for himself..
Here is a simple suggestion to Ambiga. You can get to Putrajaya if you do just one thing. Ask L*wat to declare his assets. Where did he get the money to build that palace he lives in now? RM7 million? Duit mana mari? What about that Bentley luxury limousine? Duit mana mari? Then the other cars? Duit mana mari? Just get L*wat to declare his assets, that of his wife, his children and maybe a couple of his brothers. Then we will know who is dirty. L*wat is the dirtiest poliician you can find..
These three red herrings : strengthen public institutions, stop corruption, stop dirty politics are just non starters. If you remove these three non starters, Bersih’s list ofEIGHT DEMANDS reduce to just FIVE :.
1. Clean the electoral roll
2. Reform postal ballot
3. Use indelible ink
4. Minimum 21 days campaign period
5. Free and fair access to media.
We have already talked about the electoral rolls in Part 2. The rolls are constantly being cleaned up. L*wat’s girlfriend’s husband must explain why he has 11 people registered at his mum’s house?.
We have had year round voter registration for so long already, Voter Registration agents have been appointed, including from PAS, DAP, UMNO, retired civil servants etc (who are even paid RM1.00 for every voter they register) and yet there are about four million people who have not yet registered to vote..
And there is no law in Malaysia to force people to register or to vote. The Constituion does not make it compulsory that people must vote or even register to vote. Until we change the Federal Constitution, there cannot be automatic registration of voters. A voter can then sue the EC and demand why he was automatically registered when the Constitution does not say so?.
Do they want to amend the Contitution? Then ask the Pakatan and the BN to vote together to amend the Constitution. This also they will not do. But who cares? This Bersih crap is only to divert attention from L*wat’s liwat case. Other than that, who gives a hoot about amending the Constitution?.
The postal votes issue is just more bull. How can the Pakatan win five states in March 2008, eight by elections and 15 sates seats in the Sarawak elections if they say that “postal votes” are manipulated to help the BN win? Out of 12 million voters in the country, only 200,000 or less are “postal votes” (armed forces, police, election workers etc). That is 1.8% of total voters. They are going to swing the elections?.
The suggestion to use indelible ink is stupid. During the time of the corrupt Slumberjack and his corrupt son in law, they stupidly agreed to use indelible ink. Then at the last minute they realised that it was against the Constitution. The Federal Constitution does not allow for the use of indelible ink. If the EC denies any Malaysian the fundamental right to vote because there is already some ink on his fingers (maybe from other sources and similar colored ink, henna, etc) then he stil has the right to sue the EC for denying him the right to vote. Why? Because it is not in the Constituion. So jangan jadi bodoh..
Indelible ink is used in backward third world countries like Afghanistan or India which still do not have Identity Cards, paved roads, electricity, water proper toilets in many places. In Afghanistan if you shout “Who is Mohamed?” at the Polling Station, fifty fellows will stand up all having the same name ‘Mohamed‘. You may need indelible ink in Afghanistan. In India if you go to the Polling Station and shout ‘Krishnan stand up” possibly 100 fellows will stand up all having the same name Krishnan..
Both India and Afghanistan have no Identity Cards. So how are you going to know one Mohamed from another Mohamed? Or one Krishnan from another Krishnan? This is where indelible ink comes in handy..
Tapi we live in Malaysia lah. We have the KLCC Twin Towers, everyone has Nokia, Blackberry, I Phones, I pads (1 and 2, bro I hope you are reading this?). WE are not India or Afghanistan. So please don’t suggest stupid things like indelible ink. If Ambiga is so afraid that someone may use her name to vote twice, then may I suggest that you take a knife and cut off your nose after you have finished voting. That way, we will be certain that no one else will steal your identity to vote..
Minimum 21 days campaign period? But the Pakatan jokers have been campaigning non stop since March 2008. It has been nothing but politics, politics and more politics. Campaign, campaign and nothing but campaign. Non stop..
No we do not need 21 days of roadside and ceramah campaigning. I hope the EC does NOT give in to this silly request. It will just mean more shouting, chaos, flags and posters being pasted everywhere and all such crap..
I have a suggestion. Lets follow the Indonesians. Lets create a ’cooling off’ period. All road side campaigning and ceramah must stop 36 hours before Elections. During the 36 hours all the politial parties must remove all their flags, posters, banners. If you don’t, you will lose your ‘cleaning up’ deposit of say RM20,000 for every constituency, which must be charged to every political party.
Internet campaigns, print media campaigns and TV campaigning can go on (including Harakah TV, M‘kini webcast, etc etc). That one we dont care. But allroadside campaigning and ceramah that require Police Permits must stop 36 hours before elections. And remove all posters flags, banners..
Let there be a cooling off period. And on election day, no party flags, banners, party T shirts or vehicles pasted with party stickers and flags should be allowed. Not even a single party sticker must be allowed in sight of anyone. Zero. Then let the people vote. That is my suggestion. Apa macam? What do you all think? How many of you are willing to walk with me with these demands?.
Now let us look at some of the Demands which Ambiga has DROPPED from her original list of 17 items that she submitted on 27 November 2010..
1. Investigation of Election Offences : what exactly is meant here? The Senadin case in Sarawak and UMNO’s complaint about Manik Urai have already been explained. Maybe that is why Ambiga has dropped this from her list of “Immediate Demands”. This item has been dropped by Ambiga..
2. Obstruction to voters registration : who obstructed who from registering to vote? No one? So is that why Ambiga dropped this ‘demand’ also. Pembohong!.
3. Automatic Registration : discussed above. This also has been dropped by Ambiga. (She has dropped almost everything).
4. Lowering of voting age from 21 to 18 - This also has been dropped by Ambiga and Bersih. Its not in their demands anymore. How many 18 year olds are rioting in the streets because they want to vote? They are out playing futsal or video games. Leave them alone. Yesterday a chirpy doctor said lets raise the voting age to 25. Thanks for the sugar free cheesecake..
5. Absentee voting for all - Huh? First they complain about ‘ghost voters’. Now they want absentee voting pula? I smell something stinky here. Anyway. Ambiga has dropped this “demand” as well. Saja bullshitting. Full of crap..
6. Indelible Ink - already discussed..
7. Minimizing gerrymandering : Minimizing only? Now the Pakatan is also doing their own ‘engineering’ in those states they control. They are moving their voters around. Maybe that is why Bersih has dropped this ‘demand’ also. Its not an issue with them anymore..
8. Minimising malapportionment of constituencies - this has been dropped too. They want each Parliamentary constituency to have the same number of voters.Mana boleh? The Bidayuh’s have their own issues. The Kayan’s have their own issues. And how many of them are there in one location? 1000? 2000? 500? Anyway Bersih has dropped this ‘demand’ too. Its not in their list anymore..
9. Meaningful campaign period of 21 days minimum - discussed already..
10. Free and fair media access - So does this mean my column will appear in Harakah and Rocket? Or that Harakah TV will interview UMNO people? How about M’kini running interviews with the PM? Not possible ah? Folks do you all know that the pro-opposition media now has more readers than the pro Government media. That is why Bersih and Ambiga have dropped this ‘demand’ also. They have dropped almost everything from the November 27th Memo..
Now here is a “demand” that should NOT have been dropped, but Ambiga has dropped it also:
11. Control of party expenses : Aiyyo Ambiga, why did you drop this “demand” as well ? This is soo important lah. Yes we should control election expenses. Where there is money, the devil is not far behind. Where do the political parties get their money from? Can the DAP give a full accounting of where they get their money? What about the PKR? They have been accusing the BN of getting money from everywhere (which I am sure they do). But where does the Pakatan get all their money?.
Now we will never know because Ambiga has dropped this “demand” from her earlier 17 Point Memorandum to the EC? Haiyya Ambiga, why did you go and do a dumb thing like that?.
The answer : these are all just red herrings. There is nothing to reform. They are just using ‘electoral reform’ as an excuse to create chaos in the streets. Neither do they have any intention of meeting the Agong. They don’t care if the Agong is home or not at home. They are going to riot anyway. Now Ambiga is down to just FIVE Points.
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Then here is another strange request that Bersih and Ambiga have dropped from their 17 point Memorandum :.
12. Public Finance of Party Expense. Banyak cantik. They want to use taxpayers funds for their political party’s expenses. How dumb can you get? If this is allowed even the Rohingyas and Myanmars will set up their own political parties and claim ‘election funds’ from taxpayer‘s money.
I will set up my own one man party too - ’Parti OutSyedTheBox’ and start claiming election expenses too. If they say you must have a minimum 10,000 members I will get the Rohingyas to join up - on a profit sharing basis. What do you all think? I think it will be a run away success. After it is successful, the Rohingyas will run away, with the money..
Maybe this is why Ambiga has dropped this silly “demand” from her Memorandum too..
13. Right to contest election after Resignation - ‘kataks’ to be forced to resign. I am tired already. The same comment : Ambiga has dropped this “demand” from her 17 points too..
14. Administrative neutrality : same thing. Ambiga has dropped this ‘demand’ from the 17 point Memorandum..
15. Restoration of Local Government elections : This is not even the purview of the EC. This is either a Constitutional or Parliament thingy. But why has Ambiga dropped this demand from the 17 point Memorandum?.
16. Full Judicial scrutiny on Election Petitions
17. Right to observe elections
16 and 17 have also been dropped. Actually they have dropped almost the entire contents of the Memo that was submitted on Nov 27, 2010. The FIVE points they have kept (plus three more to make it eight) are almost entirely different..
This is like the David Copperfield’s Online card trick. They show you six cards Online. The six usually look alike : 2 kings, 2 queens, 2 jacks etc. Then they ask you to just look at one card and remember it. Then they say that in the next slide your card will be gone. True enough in the next slide, your card would have disappeared. Wow? How does he do it? They change ALL the six cards. So no matter which card you choose, it will be gone. They will replace all the cards with two other similar kings, two other queens and two other jacks. They all look pretty similar. We get tricked. Ambiga Copperfield?.
This is what Ambiga and Bersih have done. Starting with 17 “demands” on Nov 27 2010, they have now reduced it to just FIVE demands and then added three more completely irrelevant ones. All the eight are actually irrelevant, especially the last three new ones..
So you Bersih supporters and Pakatan dungus out there - how do you explain this? Please don’t say that you are flexible. These are your "fighting principles" that you are talking about. These are your “lets riot in the street” type of issues. You say you want to fight for democracy, save the country, save the whales etc..
Yet you have dropped almost all your points of contention or changed them. What type of principles are these? Boleh tukar-tukar ke? If you yourself have dropped so many of these “demands” then what is there to march about on July 9th?.
What are you really marching about? Just "Five Plus Three" strange demands on a very short piece of paper? You are not fighting to save the whales or to save democracy. You dungus are being manipulated to save L*wat's @$$.
source : outsyed the box
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